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Obama Supports FISA Legislation, Angering Left

Et tu, Brute?


This is STILL a poorly drafted bill, and, IMO, a thinly veiled attempt to immunize the telecom companies AND Congress against complicity in the pillaging of the Bill of Rights.


The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
House Approves Unconstitutional Surveillance Legislation
House passes new surveillance law

Take a look around at the major news sites... this didn't exactly make headlines, did it?

Ah, fuck it. Fuck our civil liberties, fuck the Fourth Amendment. Let's just keep pissing on the Bill of Rights out of fear; evidently, its the American Way.

It was 111 degrees out at the Lab today, 102 at my house. Between that and the passing of the FISA bill, I'm not in a great mood.

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alicia_stardust
Jun. 21st, 2008 03:37 am (UTC)
Wow, you found more on this than I did. I saw a teeny little mention of this FISA news earlier today and the headline was, of course, buried. And yet, for some reason it's big news to report on Obama's new logo and other inane things. What the flying fuck?

*sigh*


ragdoll
Jun. 21st, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
This is one of the many reasons I am now a former Democrat. I gave them the last 2 years to actually do something rather than just whine about how they weren't in the majority and thus couldn't do anything. Pelosi's been an unbelievable disappointment to me, as have others. The FISA bill really just has blown my mind. I was hoping Obama would actually rise to the occasion and show some leadership in this matter and prove me wrong that he wasn't just another politician (despite his claims otherwise). Sadly, he hasn't.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

I hope you feel better soon, Beth. GET SOME COLD AIR!
liminalia
Jun. 21st, 2008 01:08 pm (UTC)
Fuuuck. I don't know how y'all can work in 111 degrees. I imagine it isn't too good for the product either.
ayelienne
Jun. 21st, 2008 02:18 pm (UTC)
Chickenshit corporatists...
requieminblack
Jun. 21st, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
It was 111 degrees out at the Lab today, 102 at my house. Between that and the passing of the FISA bill, I'm not in a great mood.

Me neither. We had no power yesterday or the day before most of the day. Talk about HOT. No a/c for 12 hours in this heat made it 95 in our house most of the day. :(
sagcat
Jun. 23rd, 2008 12:07 am (UTC)
I'm going to say something incredibly unpopular, but...

While i am an opponent of wiretapping without warrants, I don't think a phone company should be held civilly liable when they submit to the force of the government and turn over private records, especially when the government is acting on legislation.

If the wiretapping is unconstitutional, then it should be overturned in court and the law thrown out. (and it damn well should.) In the meantime, the law Enforcement officers using their new "legal" tactics and the phone companies giving into a request from a legitimate law enforcement agency should not be personally punished for the actions of the legislature.

We have checks and balances to ensure our civil liberties, but demanding civil disobedience from private corporations isn't one of those checks.

So if I were in the leg, I'd be opposed to the wiretapping (come on, it takes no time at all to get a warrant!) but I'd support telecom immunity. It seems fair. People should be able to rely on Law enforcement agencies on what's legal and not legal.
kebechet
Jun. 24th, 2008 01:42 am (UTC)
I disagree with you on innumerable levels.
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