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kebechet
Jul. 12th, 2008 03:25 am (UTC)
I think its time for me to try and reprogram myself to be less prissy about food. =/
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squeeful
Jul. 12th, 2008 02:26 am (UTC)
The food shortage is going to be the stampeding elephant no one saw coming but should have. It's already here. We, the developed world, are too used to food being the easiest of necessities to come by. It isn't going to stop, it isn't going to turn itself around, and this, more than anything else is going to be modern civ's biggest blow. How...ironic, really. Water's going to be the next thing to go -- oh, who's kidding, it's already going. Wars will be fought over water resources. Tribal wars with guided missiles. Lack of water and lack of food prompts mass immigration and refugees to less-stricken nations. Influxes of impoverished people strain already weak systems, blasts chasms between the haves and the have-nots, crumble governments, further resentments and Us vs Them mentalities. Societies become isolationist which fans Us v Them where Them become less than human. When Them are less than human, you can justify all kinds of treatment of outsiders. I could see some form of feudalism making a comeback.

It's going to be something as basic as food and water that crumbles us. Something any ecologist could tell you, that too large a population cannot be indefinitely sustained on limited resources. We've reached it. We've more than reached it combined with global climate change. We won't blow ourselves up in the name of ideologies or religion. We're going to kill ourselves off in the fight for who has control of which waterhole. Man is an animal and big brains can't save you from the need to eat and drink. Africa, Southeast Asia, and Central America will be the first to go. The US faster than it thinks; we're only kidding ourselves thinking that basic necessities are readily available for everyone. You'll start to see things like clothing become luxuries, industry fold because base resources for those things come from the fringe world which will have collapsed. With industry slowed, research and development halts, and service sector economies implode. The US doesn't, for most purposes, manufacture anymore. What we don't manufacture, we import, from the very places that are going to feel this first. They are, if they can, turn back to basic agriculture to sustain their own population. Wouldn't it be fuck-all funny if we ended up importing, not Gucci handbags, but staple crops from those same countries? Eh, we'll probably corner the cereal market with the corn and wheat we could produce, but aren't due to market stabilizing codes. At least for a while. But, hey, more flooding in our future! So, US breadbasket implodes, leaving more people unemployed AND hungry. Vicious, vicious cycle.

Global warming: it's not just about them fucking polar bears now, huh.

And ironies of ironies, "Tim Lang, professor of food policy at London's City University, said junk food will remain readily available, but good quality, nutritious produce could become scarce worldwide." people are going to die of obesity and malnutrition at the same time.
kebechet
Jul. 12th, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
Damn, why doesn't LJ have one of those 'good post' smileys?

Global warming: it's not just about them fucking polar bears now, huh.

I have to say... I loved this. Made me laugh in a slightly despairing way.


And ironies of ironies, "Tim Lang, professor of food policy at London's City University, said junk food will remain readily available, but good quality, nutritious produce could become scarce worldwide." people are going to die of obesity and malnutrition at the same time.

Neil and Terry sure did call this one in the Famine passages in Good Omens. =P~
squeeful
Jul. 12th, 2008 03:45 am (UTC)
Heh, you hit upon my frothy stompy pet subject. I'd love to do something on this (though, gleep, it would kill me) but no one is going to give that kind of docu funding to a kid so freshly graduated she doesn't even have a paper diploma. :-P

I keep a storage of a couple of relevant similes. My favorites are Photobucket and Photobucket Hippie says "fuck you"?
squeeful
Jul. 12th, 2008 11:54 am (UTC)
My socialism, let me show you it, but this article brings it so hauntingly home.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, in 2006 over 35 million people lived in food-insecure households, including 13 million children. Due to a lack of food adults living in over 12 million households could not eat balanced meals and in over 7 million families someone had smaller portions or skipped meals. In close to 5 million families, children did not get enough to eat at some point during the year.

Those numbers are scary. Really scary. We're not as rich a nation as we like to think. With most of the middle class living one paycheck away from homelessness, not at all. Nation on the Verdge of an Economic Breakdown?

Food is treated in almost all of the world’s countries as just another commodity, like clothes, automobiles, pencils, books, diamond jewelry, and so on. People are not considered to have a right to purchase any particular commodity, and no distinction is made in this respect between necessities and luxuries.

Food. Basic food. This is something we're supposed to have left behind with Dickens.

And because I have that kind of sense of humor:

liminalia
Jul. 12th, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
You said everything I've been saying for the last several years. *nodnod* I kept saying, "Hellooo, carrying capacity?" and very few people knew wtf I meant.
theodicy
Jul. 12th, 2008 06:09 am (UTC)
Yeah, I've been biting my nails waiting for the coming water crisis for, like, a decade.


Again, the ONION headlines are just going to write themselves.


I have nothing clever to note.
alicia_stardust
Jul. 12th, 2008 06:17 am (UTC)
*gurgle*

So many shitty things coming from so many different directions. It's overwhelming lately. =(

The thing is, I suck at gardening but due to the culture I was raised in I do have plenty of knowledge about having a 2 year supply of food and water ready in storage.

...uh.
liminalia
Jul. 12th, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
Mormon?
alicia_stardust
Jul. 12th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
Yes, that's the culture I was referring to. I'm ~fifteen years disconnected from it but I could tap some old resources should I decide to put together a food supply. ;)
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