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Jan. 20th, 2006

This was brought to my attention yesterday:


I’m posting this against my better judgment because I thought her potential customers might want to what little regard she has for us and for the community. Do you really want to send someone hundreds of dollars when they’re obviously gouging you for a profit?

This is something that I’ve been keeping to myself for eons, so eat me if anyone thinks its crass for me to post my thoughts on it in my own LiveJournal. Here’s the irony: her bestest buddy Lisa, who owns Atropa’s Cottage, posted the most incredibly false and insulting review of BPAL on MUA. This, after threatening to /sue/ the members and administrators of the bpal.org board for libel and slander. She neglects to mention that she herself owns an oil company, and that her review is nothing more than an attempt to enlist shady business practices in order to slam another company.

That, in itself, is disgusting, but it is neither here nor there. Let’s get to what’s relevant, now that I’ve set up the scene:

In her post, she accuses BPAL of making all their money on eBay sales. Darlings, all of our auctions start at the original cost of the bottle, and as everyone is well-aware the proceeds of those auctions have gone, almost entirely, to charity: various rescue and conservation organizations, the CBLDF, disaster relief and the Native American Elder relief fund. Even if that weren’t the case, there have been a whopping 100 or so auction since our inception, and believe me, that is NOT going to pay our staff’s wages, our rent, insurance, bills up the ass, restock, whatever.

After having to choke this down, I see that her best friend, Missanthropy, is selling off our discontinued and LE oils at an EXHORBITANT price on eBay. Many people have done similar things in the past, and honestly, I really don’t care, but… even though I’ve developed a thicker skin in the past few years, and I really don’t care much what people say about us, I DO have a problem with someone posting unfounded, vitriolic garbage about my friends and loved ones on LJ and the BPAL forum. I am EXTREMELY disgusted that someone that tried so hard to be part of our community is now not only so derisive of the people she called “friends”, but is also perfectly comfortable with trying to profit off of the people she holds in such little regard. How ugly, how petty, and how vulgar in its profiteering. It is especially galling that this occurred AFTER Lisa’s rant about us. In all truth, our customers make more on aftermarket sales than we do, and I have no problem with it. What I have a problem with is hypocrisy, crass behavior, and nasty business practices.

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Oh, well. Guess Missanthropy realized that her venom was going to cost her some sales. Her snark was deleted.

If you're going to insult our customers, insult me, insult the store and rave like a screeching, breath-holding, tantrum-flailing infant, at least have the balls to stand up. If you're going to talk shit about me, about my livelihood and about my friends, you had best have the balls to step to me, and not delete all your venom every time someone calls you on your bullshit. Coward.

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As of 1/22, I have chosen to edit out one single word from this entry. I am making no apologies, and that word was chosen carefully and with intent. I never say anything carelessly. However, it seems that some people, for whatever reason, cannot read anything beyond that one single word, and I will not have a single expletive mar everything else that I have been forced to write. It is absurd to me that one word would cripple anyone's ability to read anything but that word, but alas... I do have a flaw in my personality that causes me to constantly give the world at large way too much credit.


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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
I wish I could take it like that. I think that some people thrive on spite for its own sake, and it wouldn't matter if I sold apples on a streetcorner. =P
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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:27 pm (UTC)
::vomits in response to this::

honestly, just when you think someone has scraped the bottom of the ethics barrel ... they pry up the boards and keep on digging.
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:45 pm (UTC)
Jola, I have spent so much energy snuffing a lot of this. I never commented on the Atropa's Cottage shit to begin with, I didn't post all the hate that came from behind the scenes, and I tried my hardest to take the high road [i hate that fucking phrase], but I am so done. My patience is at zero now.
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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:28 pm (UTC)
wow. sour grapes much?
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:45 pm (UTC)
Makes me want to vomit. =(
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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:28 pm (UTC)
Wow, high drama. I am so sorry that you have had to deal with that...

Jan. 20th, 2006 06:46 pm (UTC)
Hey hunny! Where have you been? =D
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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)
10% - 20% after eBay fees goes to the person that helps list them as a thank you for their efforts, and the rest goes to whatever charity I'm crying over that week. =P All but about two auctions in the past three years have become donations, and those two went towards restocking bottles when we had a problem batching incoming orders one month.
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:37 pm (UTC)
when i got to the link she'd already erased it. damn it! i wanted to bitch her out!

(zenvodunista on the forum :) *waves* )

Jan. 20th, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)
Zen! =D
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC)
this If you're going to be a cunt, at least have the balls to stand up. made my brain hurt.
I know, I say similar stuff when I'm mad, but it's still funny.
Sorry the drahma keeps washing up on your doorstep, but kinda pleased it gave you a chance to plug the charities again ---I didn't know there was a Native American Elder Relief Fund.
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:47 pm (UTC)
Thunderbird was the Oblation scent that was specifically geared towards raising money for them. =)

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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
Sheesh. It's funny because I noticed missanthropy posting on alchemylab a lot and her prices were insane. Most of the time it was "what would you pay for *this*" or then a link to her eBay auctions. Which is fine, everyone's entitled to do what they want, but I wouldn't waste my money with someone who was clearly price gouging.

This whole addition to that just makes her look like even more of a hypocrite. If her friend has an issue about you, why does she have to fight her battles for her?

I'm a retailer too (collectible dolls, toys, whatever). There are other dealers who are bigger and better and more popular than I am. I might not like them but I just do what I can for me and let my customers make their own decisions. I never understood the point of being so bitchy and backstabbing etc.

I'm sorry you're going through this, Beth. As someone else said above, it's only because you are doing the things you do and you're so popular that someone's jealous of your much deserved success.

I didn't realise that the money from the eBay sales all goes to charity. I'm deeply impressed. I watch those auctions (and even got my Pisces oil that way!) and to me, there's no crime in a retailer actually selling something rare and unusual for a higher price if that's what the market will bear. You're not making one bottle, auctioning it off for $300 and then making more to sell at those prices -- again, sheesh. (sorry for being so long winded)
Jan. 21st, 2006 05:16 am (UTC)
Hey Rags! =) I don't understand the bitchy and backstabbing either, or the persecution complex that seems to go hand in hand with it.

The charities notwithstanding, I still don't see why we should be criticized for selling backstock and overstock at all, even if it all went to cheeses for the guys at the Lab. ;) Would it be more ethical for me to let the oils rot in a dusty box in the warehouse? =P

Ugh, I'm not sure I can talk about this anymore. It's making my teeth hurt.
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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
oh, pea. what rottenness.

i have to say,i almost had a tear that you donated to the pittie rescue! that brindle dog on their page looks exactly like my bronx! pit rescues are near and dear to my heart, thanks for donating to them. (because i know you did it just for me!)
Jan. 21st, 2006 05:17 am (UTC)
My boy Pugsley is half pit, so its really dear to my heart. =)
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
reading her "lab description" made me sick to my stomach.
Jan. 21st, 2006 05:18 am (UTC)
You too? =P I don't care if people hate us, but if yer gonna hate us, do it with class, please.

Jan. 20th, 2006 06:46 pm (UTC)
Wow, what a new low for them...

They both seem to have some serious issues! Though I've noticed some people seem to thrive on drama
Jan. 21st, 2006 05:24 am (UTC)
Hugs, Eoywin! The whole thing is extremely depressing. =P
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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)
This makes me sad.
I don't understand this sort of vitriol.
It comes from a place of jealousy, I think.

I'm sorry you have to deal with this.
From what I know of you, I think you are lovely.
Jan. 21st, 2006 06:08 am (UTC)
Thank you, sweetheart. =)
Jan. 20th, 2006 06:53 pm (UTC)
*hugs* You have every right to be upset, annoyed and hurt. I've never ordered from Atropa's Cottage (actually, you're the only alchemist (wink) I use, period) and I definately will never order from them now. Pettiness and jealousy has no place in the business world.
Jan. 21st, 2006 05:38 pm (UTC)
Molly, my reply to you got so huge, and rambled so much, that I'm just going to make a seperate post about it.

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Jan. 20th, 2006 06:58 pm (UTC)
Its sad to see people that can only create something by stealing the ideas from someone with actual talent. Its disgusting to see those same people dive even lower by trashing the artist they stole from, and generally acting like spoiled little brats.

Grr. Here's to hoping Karma gives them the kick in the ass they so rightfully deserve.
Jan. 20th, 2006 07:09 pm (UTC)
ha HA!!

Those bitches won't get one fucking dime of my money, and they will lose a lot more money after this little tantrum, too. Lisa's rant about you on MUA was so full of desperation that I half-wondered if you two dated at one time. ;)

Beth loves pit-bulls. Winner. End of fucking story.
Jan. 20th, 2006 07:55 pm (UTC)
Mine either.
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