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the_leh
Feb. 22nd, 2008 07:27 am (UTC)
Those people are using the bible as an excuse to be narrow minded, bigoted assholes.
alicia_stardust
Feb. 22nd, 2008 07:29 am (UTC)
Remarkable paradox, indeed. Wow, reading that made me sad. =/ Part of me really wants to see the documentary, and part of me thinks it would be upsetting because, in my head, I'd hear what the dogmatic response would be from all the religious homophobes I grew up with. *sigh*


kebechet
Feb. 22nd, 2008 09:16 am (UTC)
Er, mebbe I should have waited til after yer birthday. =/
alicia_stardust
Feb. 22nd, 2008 09:13 pm (UTC)
*noogies you*

Naw, it was okay. I don't need a birthday bubble of happiness and I had a great day anyway. =)
squeeful
Feb. 22nd, 2008 07:44 am (UTC)
Homophobia, the documentary posits is, in essence, just another form of misogyny — it stems from a hatred of women.

Duh.
asqmh
Feb. 22nd, 2008 08:12 am (UTC)
Oddly enough, people who actually have solid biblical training aren't like that. I need to make an icon: "Bible: ur doin it wrong"
edenssixthday
Feb. 22nd, 2008 03:36 pm (UTC)
You know what? I went to seminary and have a Masters of Divinity degree and I'd LOVE to have that icon! It blows me away how ignorant and intolerant people can be - especially Bible-based Christians. I was just thinking about it on my way in to work this morning (it's a regular topic of rumination for me) and I really just do not get it.
asqmh
Feb. 22nd, 2008 04:32 pm (UTC)
I went to seminary, too. I have most of a masters in Old Testament. Literalism makes baby Jesus cry.
keshaphim
Feb. 22nd, 2008 08:47 am (UTC)
There is a really good book called Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism by an Episcopalian Bishop and how the Bible is twisted against gays is mentioned in this book.

It's a good read.

Thanks for this post.
keshaphim
Feb. 22nd, 2008 08:57 am (UTC)
Here's a quote from that book:

- When the love of God is contained inside human barriers, it dies. It ceases to be the demanding, searing, opening love of God. It has become instead the perfume of human respectability, sprinkled on the cesspools of human negativity.
kebechet
Feb. 22nd, 2008 09:15 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for the book rec. Its in my Amazon basket now. ;)
keshaphim
Feb. 22nd, 2008 09:16 am (UTC)
:D Glad you like.
ex_yakaveng
Feb. 22nd, 2008 12:40 pm (UTC)
Off-topic, but...
I'm hoping you and Mr. Puddin' have seen today's XKCD: http://xkcd.com/387
girleevviill
Feb. 22nd, 2008 11:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Off-topic, but...
Hahahah. That is HILARIOUS!
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liminalia
Feb. 22nd, 2008 01:38 pm (UTC)
There is, actually, one verse in the Bible against lesbian sex.
Romans 1:26 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature"
That fun guy Paul again.
rosaleen_dhu
Feb. 22nd, 2008 01:18 pm (UTC)
I *heart* Selective Religioning.

We had to kick 2 teenage fundies out of our store yesterday for trying to convert people. This older guy got into a fight with one of them -
"You know, son, there is more than one way to worship."
"There is only one god!! There is only one way to worship god!!"
I wanted to buy the old guy a coffee.

Thanks for the post...the review was very well written, esp. the last paragraph.
liminalia
Feb. 22nd, 2008 01:55 pm (UTC)
We are "enjoying" the presence of Fred Phelps and his merry band of hatemongers here in DeKalb right now after the NIU shootings. Yanno, "God inspired that guy to shoot people on campus because the US tolerates fags". I refuse to give them any energy by going to see them. So has the campus LGBT group.

Jesus himself mentions loving one another and doing good for the poor, sick, oppressed, downtrodden, etc. quite a lot. He mentions gays how many times? Oh, that's right, none. I think people like this are going to have some 'splainin' to do at the Pearly Gates.
edenssixthday
Feb. 22nd, 2008 03:38 pm (UTC)
Agreed 100%!

I totally dig Jesus.

It's most of the fundamentalist/evangelical Christians I can't stand.
maewitch
Feb. 22nd, 2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
Is it wrong that I want to hump Josiah Bartlett every time I listen to that speech?
muppetk
Feb. 22nd, 2008 08:01 pm (UTC)
I always did *love* that rant of President Bartlett's. Good column. Nice to have that list of handy abominations to add to the list should the topic come up.

(btw, happy birthday! a little early, but I don't expect to be all that computer-able this weekend)
girleevviill
Feb. 22nd, 2008 11:42 pm (UTC)
I'm sure I've told you this before, but I have a degree in Religious Theology, and I spent a lot of my education pondering religion in general and Christianity in particular. Basically, I've come to the conclusion that most of the time, the modern day mainstream church is doing Jesus a huge disservice. He preached loving your neighbor and turning the other cheek, that every person was entitled to a personal relationship with their God. It's pretty obvious to me from everything I learned that he would be pretty disgusted with the bigoted bullshit that's being perpetrated under his name. C is a hardcore atheist, and we've talked many times about how back then, the bible was intended to be a mixture of propaganda and a sort of self help (or else) guide for the masses. I really love how these mean spirited people are only living by SELECTED biblical verses. If it's meant to be interpreted literally, why don't they apply all of it to their lives? IMHO, they're breaking the most basic rules of most religions, and sitting in judgment when that privilege should fall to a higher power only. It's pompous, evil and fucked up.

Uh.. I'll get off my soapbox now.
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